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SIslandBrowns
03-30-2008, 03:26 PM
I've been tying flies for about 20 years now, but I seem to be struggling to find the time these days with 2 young kids.

My brother-in-law is a guide, Stripers in Maine in the Summer and he also owns a lodge in Patagonia, Martin Pecasdor Lodge.

A few years ago he sent me an e-mail telling me that he found a great, cheap fly-tying company near where he lives up in Maine. I dismissed the note when he sent it because I had plenty of time to tie back then, but noticed it again in January and decided to give them a try. I bought 10 dozen flies - mainly things that I don't like to tie for one reason or another and a smattering of random things to see how they did with different styles of flies. I ordered 3 dozen #6 bead head woolly buggers (brown, green, black), 2 dozen small adams parachutes #18 & 20, 2 dozen BWO dries, #18 & 20, a dozen #16 March Browns, a dozen #16 copper johns, and a dozen #8 attractors. When you order 10 dozen, they also throw in a free dozen flies - which you can't choose, they just give you a random combination of 12 flies. I got some interesting and useful stuff - all good. They also give you a free dozen flies if someone places an order and names you as a referral.

Frankly, I wasn't expecting much. I'm a decent tyer and have high standards. I was impressed. First of all, they say that they use tiemco hooks and hoffman hackle and from what I've seen, they probably do. I put a couple of the flies in my vise and checked the hooks - I suppose you can never tell if they're really tiemco, but they're very strong.

My only gripe was that all the beads used were gold. I like to use black on black flies and copper on brown or green flies and I almost always use tungsten - but that's just my preference. This fish on the Cape yesterday didn't seem to mind the gold too much though :)

The small dries are truly excellent - very consistent, high quality tying. I like to tie, but have never really enjoyed tying tiny flies; the #18 & #20's look great - better than I could tie, frankly. The kicker is the price. Including delivery, the flies were $69. 132 flies, for $69 or about $.53 a fly - amazing

The website is www.flydealflies.com, they have a 500+ fly selection - plus will custom tie if asked.

One final comment. I don't intend to rub any fly-shops the wrong way by posting this info. I have NO affiliation with these guys, I just had a very good experience with them and their products.

Local fly shops are SO important and all deserve our continued patronage. LL Bean. Cabelas, BassPro and places like this can never replace the knowledge of a local shop. Visit them often - spend money there, use their guide services - help them continue to help us.

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lowwall
03-30-2008, 05:11 PM
I have been buying my small freshwater flies from them for a few years. I recieved an email from them this year that they would be no longer selling retail to new customers after September. They are a good deal

Steamtrain
03-30-2008, 05:11 PM
any pics of these flies?

Steamtrain
03-30-2008, 05:13 PM
I have been buying my small freshwater flies from them for a few years. I recieved an email from them this year that they would be no longer selling retail to new customers after September. They are a good deal


crap........

lowwall
03-30-2008, 05:28 PM
I do not tie anything smaller than 16 so those are the flies I have bought from these guys. No problam on local fish. But when I went to the SR for the first time I bought a couple dozen eggs. All the hooks straightened out ! Pretty funny now but I was not to happy at the time.

clydesdalecm
03-30-2008, 06:00 PM
These are great flies. I have used this company before and I definitely will again. The only problem is that he ties flies in bunches. The website says it generally takes 4+ weeks to complete your order. My order took about 7 weeks. But that said, the quality of the product was great and I received everything promised.

Chappy
03-30-2008, 07:31 PM
Hello,

I just went to the website and I saw nowhere that the flies were tied in the US. If it is somewhere please let me know what page it is.

Today the majority of flies are ties in China, Kenya and recently I have seen India. Most of these flies require that the materials be sent and the flies are returned - that is becoming more difficult with avian flu so these same site are becoming large material consumers - thus the name brand components - Tiemco sells a ton of hooks to these places direct.

Most of the catalogued items are traditional patterns and the quality is quite good. The reason is this is big business. The tiers don't make much at all - 95% of the total cost is materials. But these workers like humans like me and you - can learn exceptional skill especially when pay in their perspective is excellent - and the job is safe and non-toxic. Tying flies is a dream job in these companies and you make more the better you are... remember such piece meal work in the US - like shoes???

Although the outfit is out of a local area doesn't mean the flies are tied locally - if they are you can bet they are immigrant workers or from someone independently wealthy. You cannot tie a fly and sell it for $0.50 of the quality if you are doing fit as a business. The economics just don't make sense.

I think it is great to support a global economy especially if you spend a lot of time on the water ans use flies.

But I don't think these flies are tied in the US (nor even Mexico either) at those prices. We are an import society that's for sure.

Cadoda
03-30-2008, 11:05 PM
You know what's really ironic? The town in Maine where this place holds it postal adress is South China! Amusing at the very least.

SIslandBrowns
04-03-2008, 09:04 AM
That is a classic. I feel like a bit of a rube on the tied in Maine comment... Oh well.

TGIF
04-03-2008, 01:59 PM
Don't feel like a rube, just enjoy the irony. The zip code is 04358, which is the zip code for S. China, ME.... yes, they are actually based in Maine :)