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Old 10-19-2012, 02:29 PM
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Default cortland finger trap style loops ?

I just ordered one of those sage bass rods for my new pike/muskie fishing tool and have no idea if the line it comes with is looped if not are those cortland loops any good ? I appreciate any info
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:54 PM
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I have used them. They serve the purpose pretty well but have a couple shortcomings. First you may notice a heavy spot in your casting loops. But if you're throwing pike and muskie flies what's a bit more weight. Second, they do need to be changed after a few seasons if you fish a lot. Either the loop breaks or the fly line where it meets the collar will wear out.

The best way to shrink the heat tubing that they come with is to put it all together and then roll the tubing back and forth over a 60 watt light bulb to shrink it. Wear dark glasses.

All in all I think the welded loops in the new fly lines are a better option. I also put in my own mono loop if the line does not come with one.
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:30 PM
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you might try Gray's Loop. It takes a little effort to tie but it works well for me.

http://www.graysofkilsyth.com/fishin...#39;s-loop.htm
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That looks really good. I'm going to learn that one.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:43 PM
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The lines that come with the rod are looped, I have 2 of the smallmouth models , great for throwing big flies with the line they come with. They will not throw a sink tip or full sinker at all and don't like clousers. I use a saint croix 7 wght bank rober for sub surface work, if I was to do it again i would have bought 2 saint croix's as they throw everything well.

I have used the gray's loop, works well I did not know it had a name, I make my own braided loops this way
http://www.danblanton.com/blog/getting-looped/
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:42 AM
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If the leader gets inside the tip guide anything, the forward edge of the heat shrink tubing, or a knot can catch on the tip guide and if you have a hot fish it may break the tip of the rod. I like to nail knot my leader to the line and smooth the knot with Knot Sense or Pliobond.
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I like to use a jam knot of the line in the Perfection loop of the leader. Fast and easy. A figure-eight-jam may be a little cleaner, but I haven't tried it.
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:20 PM
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Default The Cortland loops are OK,

but I would not use the heatshrink with them. I secure them with a nail knot, and Knotsense as shown in the Dan Blanton link. It is easy to make your own from the Cortland braided material also shown in the link. Gudebrod no longer makes the material although I was able to find some 25 lb. on Ebay in orange color.
If you have doubts about the strength make up a couple and give them the pull test. You might be impressed. The harder you pull, the tighter the sleeve grips the flyline.
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